Date: 2009-04-17 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yeloson.livejournal.com
A good friend and white ally of mine who moved up to Seattle had some interesting stories about the kinds of advice received from folks about "where to live" which scarily mirrored the old sundown rules up there.

You might also want to pick up Driven Out - a book on Chinese being run out of towns along the West Coast. I'm thinking about looking at the times/places where one group is run out vs. another, etc.

Date: 2009-04-17 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spacejaggy.livejournal.com
(Sorry in advance for the long comment.) I'll pick up Driven Out. I picked up a pack of "special reports" from Arizona's State Parks and a couple of them concern Chinese immigrants working on the railroad.

I'd like to see that times/places analysis because I want to do a times/places analysis for Portland. My mom told me my whole life that "evil racist realtors" were responsible for selling houses in only one section of the city to African Americans. White? Settle anywhere. Black? North Portland. While I was reading the Sundtown Towns introduction (http://www.uvm.edu/~jloewen/content/sundown-introduction.pdf) (PDF), I realized it wasn't just "the realtors" in doing it out of their own initiative but probably because Portland, like other bigger cities, couldn't keep blacks out. We're the biggest port on the Willamette River.

At some point, there had to have been directions given or rules put in place to restrict blacks from other areas of the city. Or incidents that make it clear. I'm gonna go looking because I grew up thinking "black people just want to hang out with other black people" because the attitudes of white adults seemed to be "well, if they wanted to move, they would, we're all enlightened liberals here in the green PacNW" ... which I know now is bullshit. So from what I've seen of well-meaning liberals, Sundown Towns make perfect sense to me.

Oregon history is so fucking depressing but, luckily, we had Racefail this year and it woke me up. You were a big part of that. Thanks again. :) Would you be interested in anything I dig up? Do you have any other particular references or recommendations?

Date: 2009-04-17 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yeloson.livejournal.com
I'd love to hear what you dig up.

You're probably going to find a lot of stuff directly on the deeds to homes- down here in Oakland there's a lot of property with specific limits on who can or can't own it. (These laws aren't -currently- enforced, but several of my friends joke that when the law does get enforced, they'll all lose their homes.)

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