The intellectually dishonest silencing tool in racism discussions* that we:
1. are polite
2. only talk about things that matter (as defined by someone else)
3. are inclusive of all the other possible things that matter (sexism, classism, ecological survival, etc.)
4. are educated enough to speak (as defined by someone else)
5. aren't SO educated that we're elitists in ivory towers
6. prove that we exist, and not as sockpuppets (to standards as decided by someone else)
7. prove that we are, in fact POC (as defined by someone else, to their standards)
8. answer everyone's objections, doubts, and questions, even if we already answered it and clearly this person either lacks the ability or the good faith to read for themselves, even if it is unrelated and completely unreasonable to answer in context of the question ("But unless you can tell me how many molecules are in this orange, slavery didn't happen!")
9. accept that the people demanding this are not held to the same requirements and simply automatically assumed to have authority to determine your legitimacy regardless of the fact that they may have never even heard of the subject in their entire lives.
10. and of course, prove TO COMPLETE STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET, all of the above AND that you are "doing something besides 'just complaining'
...in order for our words to be heard.
IF NOT ALL TEN, THEN TROLL, seems to be the Denial Subroutine in the Timecube OS of these people.
Of course, none of these people ever seem to be able to point to an example of someone who sufficiently meets their demands and therefore is a "legitimate" voice...
*These are silencing tactics and show up in other ways in other discussions too. But, you know, if you aren't just trying to roll in denial, I shouldn't have to point that out for the point to stay valid (#3)...
1. are polite
2. only talk about things that matter (as defined by someone else)
3. are inclusive of all the other possible things that matter (sexism, classism, ecological survival, etc.)
4. are educated enough to speak (as defined by someone else)
5. aren't SO educated that we're elitists in ivory towers
6. prove that we exist, and not as sockpuppets (to standards as decided by someone else)
7. prove that we are, in fact POC (as defined by someone else, to their standards)
8. answer everyone's objections, doubts, and questions, even if we already answered it and clearly this person either lacks the ability or the good faith to read for themselves, even if it is unrelated and completely unreasonable to answer in context of the question ("But unless you can tell me how many molecules are in this orange, slavery didn't happen!")
9. accept that the people demanding this are not held to the same requirements and simply automatically assumed to have authority to determine your legitimacy regardless of the fact that they may have never even heard of the subject in their entire lives.
10. and of course, prove TO COMPLETE STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET, all of the above AND that you are "doing something besides 'just complaining'
...in order for our words to be heard.
IF NOT ALL TEN, THEN TROLL, seems to be the Denial Subroutine in the Timecube OS of these people.
Of course, none of these people ever seem to be able to point to an example of someone who sufficiently meets their demands and therefore is a "legitimate" voice...
*These are silencing tactics and show up in other ways in other discussions too. But, you know, if you aren't just trying to roll in denial, I shouldn't have to point that out for the point to stay valid (#3)...
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Date: 2009-05-23 08:12 pm (UTC)Goes to link so I can has handy a la
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Date: 2009-05-23 09:52 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-05-23 10:10 pm (UTC)Of course, none of these people ever seem to be able to point to an example of someone who sufficiently meets their demands and therefore is a "legitimate" voice...
Oh, sure they can, usually dead people. Ghandi and MLK by preference. Ignoring of course, any context or any words to the contrary from those all-forgiving, ever-gentle, majority-reassuring (hah) men.
I always wish Ghandi and MLK could get up in their faces in person to give them the lie.
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Date: 2009-05-23 10:28 pm (UTC)11. Be dead
...which kinda brings the denial back round full circle to out and out white supremacists, right?
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Date: 2009-05-23 10:33 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-05-23 10:49 pm (UTC)*is in tears* I forgot to add OTB, I'm a baaad feminist!
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Date: 2009-05-23 10:42 pm (UTC)13. be mind readers in order to gauge motivations: intentional racism or accidental oopsy pardon me racism
But I suppose WP would include that in "be polite."
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Date: 2009-05-24 01:35 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-05-24 02:47 am (UTC)are polite2.
only talk about things that matter (as defined by someone else)3.
are inclusive of all the other possible things that matter (sexism, classism, ecological survival, etc.)4.
are educated enough to speak (as defined by someone else)5. aren't SO educated that we're elitists in ivory towers
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prove that we exist, and not as sockpuppets (to standards as decided by someone else)7.
prove that we are, in fact POC (as defined by someone else, to their standards)8.
answer everyone's objections, doubts, and questions, even if we already answered it and clearly this person either lacks the ability or the good faith to read for themselves, even if it is unrelated and completely unreasonable to answer in context of the question ("But unless you can tell me how many molecules are in this orange, slavery didn't happen!")9.
accept that the people demanding this are not held to the same requirements and simply automatically assumed to have authority to determine your legitimacy regardless of the fact that they may have never even heard of the subject in their entire lives.10.
and of course, prove TO COMPLETE STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET, all of the above AND that you are "doing something besides 'just complaining'Well crap. No wonder I"m the crazy black women. I only got one out of ten. Oh wait, didn't someone call me ARCANE? That takes care of
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Date: 2009-05-24 07:03 am (UTC)The One Drop Rule and Paper Bag Test seem to apply until it's convenient not to- don't forget the "Is Obama actually black?" media rush before his nomination to the Dems...
I'm sure if you say something too sensible in the "proper tone" your POC identity online will be revoked because you'll secretly be a white CIA sockpuppet...
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Date: 2009-05-24 04:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-05-24 04:50 am (UTC)(sorry, this is an r.p. journal. i'm
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